Dan Ciuriak: Ciuriak Consulting

• Former Deputy Chief Economist Dan Ciuriak on Trump’s tariffs, Canada’s real trade exposure, and why our economy hasn’t collapsed. Dan Ciuriak spent 31 years with the Government of Canada. That included 13 years at the Department of Finance working on the 1992 financial reforms, a posting in Bonn right after German reunification, and Canada’s 1997 APEC year. He then helped build the Office of the Chief Economist at Foreign Affairs and International Trade, and retired there as Deputy Chief Economist in 2008. Two days before he retired, he ran into a Carleton professor on his way to tennis. That one chance invite to teach a course snowballed into an island-hopping consulting gig across the Caribbean on LIAT, better known as “Leaves Islands Any Time.” Eighteen years later, he runs his own consultancy and holds fellowships with CIGI, the C.D. Howe Institute, the Asia Pacific Foundation of Canada and the Balsillie School of International Affairs. Jude and Tom sit down with Dan to cut through the tariff headlines. He explains why the IBM PC, not free trade, drove globalization. He also explains why the share of Canada’s economy really exposed to US tariffs is closer to 7.5% than 75%, and why American buyers are still paying a 50% tariff on Canadian aluminum. They get into his “Carney Doctrine,” interprovincial trade barriers, auto plants pivoting to drones and defence, and why Canada keeps losing its “innovation engines” to Silicon Valley. Dan also makes the case for turning Canada Post into a sovereign Canadian cloud. And he answers whether his girlfriend ever got back the $5,000 she lent him for a Fiat Spider. Dan Ciuriak, trade economist and consultant; former Deputy Chief Economist, Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada 🔗 Connect with Dan Ciuriak: LinkedIn:   / dan-ciuriak-5084601b   📚 Resources Mentioned: • “The Carney Doctrine” (paper by Dan Ciuriak) • Dan’s National Post op-ed on Canada Post as a sovereign cloud (Balsillie School of International Affairs) • The Global Factory (1985) • Peterson Institute for International Economics study on Chinese value added in US imports • Trevor Tombe and IMF research on interprovincial trade barriers • Project NANDA (MIT) • Death by China by Peter Navarro • Centre for International Governance Innovation (CIGI), C.D. Howe Institute, Asia Pacific Foundation of Canada, Balsillie School of International Affairs ⏱️ Timestamps: 00:00 — Cold Open: Why 75% Is Really 7.5% 00:55 — Meet Dan Ciuriak: From Ottawa to Accidental Consultant 06:28 — How the IBM PC, Not Free Trade, Built the Global Factory 12:20 — What Trump’s Tariffs Really Cost Canada 21:24 — Why Canada’s Economy Is Still Growing 23:58 — Why Re-Industrialization Won’t Work for America 33:58 — The Carney Doctrine, Internal Trade, and Buying Canadian 43:03 — Fortress North America, Autos, and the Pivot to Drones 50:18 — Keeping Canada’s Innovation Engines at Home 1:01:17 — Should Canada Post Run a Sovereign Cloud? 1:09:20 — Why Canadian Entrepreneurs Should Be Optimistic Subscribe & follow The Cherry Kicks Show: YouTube:    / @cherrykicksshow   Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0JYOBPh... Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast... #podcast #entrepreneurship #victoriabc #eo #canadianeconomy #tariffs #internationaltrade #digitalsovereignty