Drink water. Take a nap. with Fatima Mann, Cultural Mindfulness & Human-Centered Change Expert

What if the change you want to see in the world starts with whether you drank water today? Most of us were taught to keep personal healing and social change on separate tracks. Fatima Mann, co-founder and Chief Visionary of Love and Healing Work, never did. She has spent her career helping individuals and organizations become more culturally mindful, healing-centered, and non-harmful, and her core conviction is simple: if we want to create a less harmful world, we have to start by lessening the harm we do to ourselves. In this conversation, Liz and Fatima get into what it actually means to put your own mask on first — not as a platitude but as a daily practice. They talk about how trauma disconnects us from our bodies and own knowing, why shame is a shackle rather than a motivator, and what it looks like to question every behavior by asking whether it’s causing harm or harmony. She also shares how she works with leaders and organizations — from helping a coffee shop owner transform her hiring and culture so that Black and brown customers felt welcome there, to working with CEOs who see turnover drop and trust grow when they start leading like humans first. If you care about changing the world and you want to understand why taking care of yourself isn’t separate from that work — it is the work — this episode is for you. Connect with Fatima Mann, JD. TCYT, CYT Fatima Mann is a social justice advocate, healer, and the co-founder and Chief Visionary of Love and Healing Work, a consulting and training company that helps individuals and organizations show up in culturally mindful, healing-centered, and non-harmful ways. Fatima’s path to this work was forged through direct action — co-founding the Austin Justice Coalition to combat police brutality, helping pass the Sandra Bland Act, and founding the Community Restoration Project during Hurricane Harvey, where she led the rescue of over 400 people and reimagined disaster relief by placing families in hotels instead of shelters. A lawyer by training, a trauma-conscious yoga instructor, and a deeply embodied practitioner, Fatima brings all of who she is — her legal mind, her activist roots, her healing practice — into her work with organizations and communities. At the heart of everything she does is a conviction that the way we treat ourselves and each other is where culture actually changes.