The Hard Truth About Death & Letting Go | Jayine Chung, Ming Kwang, Pei Ying |CYT Special Seoul 2026

This is one of those that conversations naturally find their way to places many of us spend a lifetime avoiding. In this special overseas episode filmed in Seoul, South Korea, Hun Ming Kwang and Lim Pei Ying, the team of Clean Your Toilet Podcast, sit down with Jayine Chung, Founder of Maru Production. What began as a conversation about entrepreneurship, purpose and building a life across two countries gradually unfolds into one of life's most difficult and least talked about subjects. Death. Grief. Letting go. It is a conversation many of us avoid because we don't know what to say, how to feel, or where to begin. Yet perhaps the conversations we avoid are the ones we need the most. As the conversation unfolds, Jayine shares the deeply personal experience of losing both her father and her beloved dog within months of each other, missing her father's final moments by just ten minutes, and the guilt and self-blame that quietly followed. Together, they explore why grief has no deadline, how our bodies often carry emotions long before our minds understand them, and why so many of us were never taught the emotional literacy needed to navigate life's deepest moments. This episode goes beyond grief, it's about what happens when success no longer feels like enough. It's about questioning the impact we're making, confronting imposter syndrome, recognizing the hidden roles we've been playing our whole lives, and discovering that healing isn't about becoming someone new. It begins by meeting the parts of ourselves we've never learnt to sit with. In this conversation, we explore: • Why success doesn't always bring fulfilment • The hidden cost of always being "the strong one" • Missing the people we love, and learning to live with what remains unsaid • How childhood shapes the way we relate to emotions • Why grief can surface in unexpected moments • The connection between our body, emotions and healing • Emotional literacy, and why it may be one of the most important life skills we were never taught • What it really means to let go If you've ever... • wondered whether you're making the impact you hoped for, • carried everyone else while quietly neglecting yourself, • struggled to process emotions you couldn't fully explain, • or found yourself holding on to someone, something, or a version of yourself long after it was gone... we hope this conversation reminds you that you don't have to rush your healing. Sometimes, the deepest transformations don't begin with finding the answers. They begin with having the courage to ask better questions. --- 🎙️ About the Podcast The Clean Your Toilet Podcast explores the inner work behind personal growth, leadership, and building a meaningful life through honest, unfiltered conversations. If this conversation resonated with you, we'd love to hear from you. What is one conversation you've been avoiding, and what might change if you finally had it? Share your thoughts in the comments below. And if you know someone who needs this conversation today, send it to them. Sometimes one honest conversation can change the direction of a life. ⏱ Chapters 00:00 The Conversation Nobody Wants to Have 03:12 Building a Life Between Singapore & Korea 08:25 "I Don't Feel Like I'm Enough" 14:40 Success Without Fulfilment 20:45 Missing Her Father by 10 Minutes 27:18 Living With Guilt After Loss 33:10 Why Grief Has No Deadline 39:05 The Burden of Being "The Strong One" 45:42 When Your Body Cries Before You Do 51:36 Why Did She Cry at a Happy Musical? 57:28 The Emotional Skills We Were Never Taught 1:04:10 What Death Teaches Us About Living 1:10:35 Go With the Flow: Letting Go of Control 1:16:48 One Final Question #CleanYourToiletPodcast #death #innerwork #Grief #LettingGo #EmotionalHealing #lifelessons #staystrong #emotionalintelligence #humanity #purpose #podcast #singapore #hunmingkwang ‪@hunmingkwang‬