Non-Congregational Ministers… “What’s it like out there?”

This episode is a little different. Rev. John is joined by two friends and colleagues, the Rev. Dr. Kristine O'Brien and the Rev. Dr. Jeffrey Crawford, for an honest conversation about what they're seeing as they spend their days alongside ministry leaders. The conversation wanders through clergy fatigue, church decline, grief, hope, camps, community, and the places where God still seems to be at work, often outside the places we expect. There aren't tidy answers here. Just three people trying to make sense of this moment in the life of the church and reminding one another that faithful ministry has always involved paying attention to where the Spirit is already moving.