34 - Network State Conference 2025 - Fireside with Vitalik and Balaji on Zuzalu and d/acc

Vitalik Buterin is the cofounder of Ethereum. In this fireside, he discusses the progress of Zuzalu, a family of Ethereum-aligned popup cities, the idea of d/acc, and the contrast between geographically central startup societies ("embassies") vs geographically remote cities ("monasteries"). Website: https://www.zuzalu.city OUTLINE 0:22 - What's the latest with Zuzalu? 3:45 - The idea of d/acc 7:40 - Some nodes feel like they are approaching product market fit 9:00 - Jurisdictions that are both meaningful and pragmatic 12:46 - In the digital realm, state capacity can scale independently of the number of people 15:00 - Small countries are experimenting with digital nomad visas 19:26 - Gamifying clean air 22:04 - Embassies and monasteries LINKS Network State Conference: https://ns.com/conference Full Network State Conference 2025 playlist:    • Network State Conference 2025