So... You Still Want to Be a Pastor?

For our first-ever guest episode, Jared and Bill sit down with longtime friend and pastor Destined “Doobie” Wright. Doobie shares the story of a church conflict that spiraled into accusations, broken friendships, denominational investigations, and a season that nearly drove him out of ministry. But years later, he looks back on it differently. This is a conversation about church hurt, betrayal, shame, forgiveness, leadership, and the difference between simply trying to be “better” and actually becoming healed. What does it look like to trust God when you’re still in the middle of the storm?