Tangents, Travel & Empty Nesting

France, empty nesting, and a conversation that refuses to stay on track in the best way possible. This week on Sunday Self, Marie and Katie sit down to talk about what’s been going on - and, as usual, end up going in about a hundred different directions. Katie’s back from France, Marie has officially entered her empty-nester era, and the result is plenty of laughs, stories, and a few unexpected detours along the way.