Merging Instinctual & Systematic Animal Training with Phung Luu: Precision Animal Training Podcast

Welcome to the Precision Animal Training podcast, where science, skill, and passion collide. In this episode, “Merging Instinctual & Systematic Animal Training,” host Kirsten Kraljevic is joined by two giants in the animal training field: Dr. Bob Bailey and renowned bird trainer Phung Luu. Follow Phung’s inspiring journey from rural Vietnam to training birds on U.S. Air Force bases, managing innovative zoo bird shows, and shaping the next generation of animal trainers. This episode unpacks how blending natural intuition with proven, systematic training methods can revolutionize how you train animals—whether chickens, dogs, parrots, or even people. Phung and Bob reveal the importance of real observation, the value of structure, and why empowering animals and trainers leads to breakthrough success. Perfect for animal trainers, zookeepers, wildlife educators, and anyone passionate about behavior science and positive reinforcement, this episode delivers practical tips you can use right away. Plus, discover why chicken workshops are the ultimate test of your mechanical skills and clarity as a trainer. Topics Covered: The art and science of merging feel with behavioral systems Phung Luu’s unique path from instinctual to systematic methods The pivotal role of true animal observation Education, outreach, and the impact of animal work in zoos and beyond How to foster passion and resilience in your training career Why choice and respect are game-changers in animal empowerment Practical insights for trainers wanting to level up their craft Want more? Subscribe for weekly expert conversations that will change the way you train. Visit KirstensChickenWorkshops.com to learn more about workshops and resources designed to elevate your skills! Train a chicken. Change the way you train and lead—forever.