S7E42 - Hell, Annihilationism & Universalism: What Happens After We Die?

🙏 Sign Up for Prayer: https://orbisprayer.org/ ❤️ Donate: https://subsplash.com/orbisministries... In this episode of God Is Not a Theory, Ken Fish and Joel Taylor are joined by Dr. Sam Storms—theologian, author, and longtime pastor—for a careful, substantive conversation about the doctrine of last things: what Scripture actually teaches about the fate of the unsaved. Together they define the terms and weigh the views: eternal conscious punishment (the historic position), annihilationism and its modern form conditional immortality, and universalism. Drawing on texts like Matthew 25 and Revelation 14, Sam makes the biblical case for the traditional view while engaging the strongest arguments on the other side with honesty and charity. The conversation keeps returning to a deeper root: nearly every theological error flows from a misconception about the nature of God—and much of modern theology has quietly turned into anthropology, exalting human feeling over God's revealed Word. Ken, Sam, and Joel explore why these views have surged in the charismatic world, how "hyper-grace" and a one-dimensional view of God's love pave the way for universalism, and the surprising spiritual dimension Ken has encountered in deliverance ministry. Throughout, they model how to hold firm conviction with grace toward genuine brothers and sisters who land differently. Together, they discuss: Defining the terms: eternal conscious punishment, annihilationism, conditional immortality, universalism The key texts—Matthew 25 and Revelation 14—and how "eternal" is used Why most theological error traces back to a misconception of God's character How modern theology turned into anthropology—human feeling over God's Word Why "hyper-grace" and a one-dimensional view of love open the door to universalism Whether annihilationism logically collapses into universalism John Stott's honest struggle—and why emotions can't be the standard of truth The "church growth" and seeker-sensitive pressures behind squishy theology Holding conviction with charity toward fellow believers who differ Why biblical immortality isn't the same as Plato's immortality of the soul Don't let your preferences be the final word—submit your heart to the authority of Scripture, because bad theology hurts people. How to Engage with Orbis: READ: Check out Ken's book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636412548 LEARN: Enroll in Orbis School of Ministry: https://orbissm.com or email our Registrar, Jo McKay, at jo@orbisminstries.org TRAIN: Apply to serve on an upcoming overseas ministry trip: orbisministries.org CONNECT: Do you want to join Ken's private Facebook discussion group, "God is not a Theory?" Please send a Facebook Direct Message to Bryan Orbis and a friend request to be added to it. PARTNER: Partner with Orbis Financially: https://subsplash.com/orbisministries... Upcoming Event Illumination Northwest Winter Conference 📅 December 3–6, 2026 📍 Father's House Church | Longview, WA 💻https://fathershousechurch.com/?page_... #GodIsNotATheory #KenFish #JoelTaylor #SamStorms #Theology #Hell #Annihilationism #Universalism #Eschatology #Grace #HolySpirit #Discipleship