Turning Systems Thinking Into Action | Eric Kebschull

Seeing patterns is one thing. Knowing what to do with them is another. In this episode, Karen sits down with Well•Led co-founder Eric Kebschull to talk about his unconventional career path, his lifelong drive to learn, and how he came to understand his own systems-thinking abilities. Eric shares how leaving a career that no longer aligned with his values ultimately led him to coaching, leadership development, systems thinking, and the work he does today. They explore what it’s like to see patterns and consequences others may not see, why being right isn’t enough to create change, and why the ability to mobilize people is just as important as diagnosing the problem. Karen and Eric also unpack the connection between systems thinking and adaptive leadership, the role trust, learning, and risk-taking play in adaptability, and the research Eric is leading at Well•Led to better understand how people and organizations adapt to change. Because systems thinking isn’t just about seeing what others miss. It’s about turning what you see into meaningful action.