Naomi Klein: Trump's Allies Think the World Is Ending. They're Ready.

From underground compounds to planet-fleeing rockets, tech oligarchs and the MAGA elite aren’t just anticipating an apocalypse—they’re hastening it. Author and climate activist Naomi Klein sits down with Jon to discuss End Times Fascism: And the Fight for the Living World, her new book with Astra Taylor. She and Jon trace the connection between the religious right, Silicon Valley elite, and nationalist movements around the world, and uncover how Donald Trump and J.D. Vance are weaponizing the human instinct to protect our own. Then they discuss how to make people feel safer, less prone to zero-sum thinking, and more invested in a future we have to share. CHECK OUT OUR SPONSORS HUNGRYROOT: https://www.hungryroot.com/offline Code: OFFLINE PROTON VPN: https://www.protonvpn.com/offline QUINCE: https://www.quince.com/offline 3 DAY BLINDS: https://www.3dayblinds.com/OFFLINE CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Intro 1:19 - Jon's essay 8:36 - Naomi Klein joins to discuss her new book 20:45 - ad break 23:42 - Authoritarianism vs. fascism 41:47 - ad break 44:39 - Is there too much doomerism going on? Head to CrookedCon.com for tickets, lineup announcements, and more! http://crookedcon.com/ For a transcript of an episode of Offline, please email transcripts@crooked.com. Is the internet slowly breaking our brains, and if so, what can we do about it? Offline with Jon Favreau is a place where you can take a break from doom-scrolling and tune in to smarter, lighter conversations about the impact of technology & the internet on our collective culture. Intimate interviews between Pod Save America host Jon Favreau and notable guests like Stephen Colbert, Hasan Piker, ContraPoints, Margaret Atwood, and Megan Rapinoe spark curiosity and introspection around the various ways our extremely online existence shapes everything from the ways we live, work, and interact with one another. Together we’ll figure out how to live happier, healthier lives, both on and offline. Photos courtesy of AP Photo Archive Crooked Media believes that we need a better conversation about politics, culture, and the world around us—one that doesn’t just focus on what’s broken, but what we can do to fix it. We are a media network that showcases stories, voices, and opportunities for activism that inform, entertain, and inspire action, because it’s up to all of us to do our part to build a better world. That’s it. End of mission. Learn more about us at crooked.com