Episode 2 | Roberto Joseph🎙️Solo & Co-Founder Experience, Building SAY App & Redefining Money Habits

In this episode, we sit down with Roberto — tech entrepreneur and founder of SAY, an app redefining how people track their money. We go all the way back to his very first app, through his co-founding journey with Swift Jobs, the challenges of building across different circumstances, and how all of that led to SAY. We also get into what's next on the roadmap for SAY, and Roberto shares the lessons that shaped how he thinks about startups, validation, co-founders, rejection, and knowing when it's time to move on. 00:00 — Meet Roberto & What Is SAY? 02:07 — Why Roberto Loves Building Products 04:02 — The First Startup: Swift Jobs 06:06 — Swift Jobs Challenges 08:33 — The Biggest Lessons From Failure 09:17 — Validate Before You Build 11:15 — The Value of a Co-Founder 12:18 — Rejection and Dealing with it 16:22 — Leaving His Job to Build a Startup 18:06 — How Do You Find Your Next Idea? 20:33 — How SAY Started 22:01 — Validating SAY 25:21 — Getting Real Customer Feedback 27:38 — Building in Public & Connecting With Users 31:13 — Going All-In on SAY 40:30 — Genuine Connection with Roberto & SAY 43:57 — The Reality of Working for Yourself 50:52 — Learning to Delegate 52:32 — Final Thoughts