矛盾蒋方舟/Jiang Fangzhou's inner conflicts

欢迎来到这一期的纽约漫谈录，本期我们邀请到了中国作家蒋方舟。 蒋方舟是一个挺矛盾的人，她自己常说自己有讨好型人格，看上去似乎也是。比如我们在北京吃饭时，服务员非要我们去加一个会员，她明明赶时间，却还是耐心配合，说“小妹工作也不容易，举手之劳”。在纽约的签售现场也是，她会耐心起立，跟每一位读者合影。但与此同时，她的内心又并不是一个在观念上随波逐流的人，她对很多事情都有自己非常坚定的判断。 其实像她这样少年成名的作家，很多人会在人生轨迹上追求一种不羁的状态。但蒋方舟却并不排斥相对固定的人生道路：认真准备高考，上大学，甚至之后还找了个班儿上。这种选择本身，反而就是做她自己。 这次对谈中，我们也聊到了她与母亲之间的依恋关系，以及这些关系如何塑造了她的情感底层与今天的人生状态。 总之，这是一次非常坦诚的对谈，希望你也能够喜欢。 Welcome to this episode of Rambling in New York. In this episode, we are joined by Chinese writer Jiang Fangzhou. Jiang Fangzhou is, in many ways, a person full of contradictions. She often describes herself as having a people-pleasing personality, and that does seem to be true. For example, when we were having a meal in Beijing, a server insisted that we sign up for a membership. Although she was in a hurry, she still cooperated patiently, saying, “Her job isn’t easy — it’s just a small favor.” The same is true at her book signings in New York, where she patiently stands up to take photos with every reader. Yet at the same time, she is far from someone who simply follows prevailing opinions. She holds strong and independent judgments on many issues. For writers who achieve fame at a young age, many tend to pursue a more unconventional or rebellious life path. Jiang Fangzhou, however, does not resist more traditional trajectories. She prepared seriously for the college entrance examination, completed university, and later even worked in a conventional job. In a way, these choices themselves reflect her commitment to being true to who she is. In this conversation, we also discuss her early attachment to her mother and how that relationship has gradually evolved over the years, shaping the emotional foundation of her life and her current state of being. Overall, this is a very candid conversation, and we hope you enjoy it.