Cardinal George Pell debates Liberal Jesuit on Contraception and Women's Ordination.

Cardinal (then Archbishop) Pell and Fr Bill Uren SJ debate Contraception and Women's Ordination on ABC's Four Corners Program (1993). Australian Jesuits representing a liberal/progressive take on Catholicism (I call it Cafeteria Catholicism) while Cardinal (then Archbishop) Pell defends the traditional teachings of the Church and of Jesus Christ. Disclaimer: We do not identify as “conservative” - this is a political word. We are Christ’s faithful and anything less is cafeteria Catholicism.