Melinda French Gates on moving past the ‘muck’ and building a beautiful life

Melinda French Gates has been through some painful and public transitions — ending her marriage of 27 years, stepping away from the foundation she built with her ex-husband Bill Gates and turning her professional focus to women’s health and social progress. She talks to Rachel about forgiveness, learning to trust, and her ex-husband’s association with Jeffrey Epstein. MORE WILD CARD EPISODES    • Wild Card with Rachel Martin   WHAT IS “WILD CARD?” Life’s too short for small talk. NPR's Rachel Martin gets right to the questions that matter most. Once a week, famous guests pull questions from a deck of cards and open up about the kind of stuff we all think about but rarely say out loud. Actors, authors and thinkers are prompted to talk about everything from their insecurities and dreams to grief and God. Named one of The New York Times’ 10 best podcasts of 2024, Wild Card stands out among celebrity interview podcasts. When modern life feels chaotic or overwhelming, listen to Wild Card for a joyful, grounding reminder of our shared humanity. You can reach out to us at wildcard@npr.org. We love it when you do. The NPR shows you love are possible thanks to your support. Donate today: https://www.npr.org/donations/support