OpenAI's executive exodus has one big winner | Decoder

Our guest today is Hayden Field, The Verge’s senior AI reporter. We’re discussing some pure Decoder bait: the seemingly-endless org chart changes at OpenAI, and how all of them seem to consolidate power under cofounder Greg Brockman, the company’s president. While Sam Altman is the CEO and still OpenAI’s most public face, Brockman has amassed enormous power and influence within the top ranks of the company as other senior leaders have left in rapid succession. So I wanted Hayden to break down for me what’s going on at OpenAI, and the increasingly important role Greg Brockman will play in its future. #openai #ai #technology 0:00 Cold Open: Brockman's Ride-or-Die Bet 0:35 Decoder Intro 1:46 Interview: OpenAI's Org Chart Chaos 2:30 Who Is Greg Brockman? 4:55 The 2023 Board Coup & Brockman's Loyalty 7:38 2025: More Dramatic Than 2023 8:05 The Executive Exodus 10:05 What Brockman Controls Now 10:48 Fidji Simo & The Consumer Strategy Shift 13:27 Where Is Sam Altman? 17:15 The IPO Pressure 19:32 The Anthropic Challenge 21:05 Consumer & Hardware Bets 23:43 AI Hardware Skepticism 27:10 Brockman's Political Donations 31:04 Will Brockman Become CEO? 33:11 Final Predictions 35:18 Outro Follow Decoder on TikTok: @decoderpod Follow Decoder on Instagram: @decoderpod Subscribe: http://goo.gl/G5RXGs Like The Verge on Facebook: https://goo.gl/2P1aGc Follow on Twitter: https://goo.gl/XTWX61 Follow on Instagram: https://goo.gl/7ZeLvX Follow on TikTok: http://bit.ly/42VeCVU Watch The Vergecast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/40RFRkg The Vergecast Podcast: https://bit.ly/3WQDexZ Decoder with Nilay Patel: http://apple.co/3v29nDc More about our podcasts: https://www.theverge.com/podcasts Read More: http://www.theverge.com Community guidelines: http://bit.ly/2D0hlAv Wallpapers from The Verge: https://bit.ly/2xQXYJr Shop our Verge merch store here: https://bit.ly/4kPCmEc If you buy something from a Verge link, Vox Media may receive a commission without exerting any influence on editorial content. For more information about our ethics policy, visit: https://bit.ly/3ZWTlLs