Of War and Ruin and The Ice with Ryan Cahill and Friends (non-spoiler and spoiler)

Starting with a spoiler-free discussion, Ryan Cahill joins Mike (‪@mikesbookreviews‬), John (‪@Talking_Story‬), Christopher (‪@Christopher_Navo‬), and me to chat about Of War and Ruin and The Ice. There will be time for questions from people in the chat as well!