2024 Elections about "numbers" not politics - Neil de Beer

A former Security Branch (SB) informer who defected to the African National Congress’ armed wing uMkhonto we Sizwe (MK) as an intelligence operative - and who left the ANC after 32 years to form his own party - is one of the opposition leaders who will be at the upcoming national convention of “pact” members. He is Neil De Beer of the United Independent Movement (UIM). He speaks to BizNews about what he fought for in the past and what future he is fighting for now. De Beer gives his reasons for joining the “Moonshot Pact Coalition”, and says the 2024 election is about “numbers” and “logistics” - not politics. De Beer also speaks about what drives him, his epic cancer battle, and his relationship with God. - Chris Steyn Video production by Asime Nyide Your early morning brew of the BizNews Insider keeps you up to speed with the content that matters. The newsletter will land in your inbox at 5:30am weekdays. Register here - https://bit.ly/3lfVRYP. --- Timestamps 00:09 - Introductions 00:29 - Neil de Beer on his journey in politics 01:04 - On what made him leave the ANC after 32 years 03:20 - His journey from security branch spy to defecting to the MK all the way to being Madiba’s security advisor 06:40 - On if restorative justice is possible 08:15 - On the reason he joined the coalition 10:47 - On if he’s in favour of a coalition government between the pact on one end and the ANC on the other end  13:24 - On what drives him 14:28 - The battles with his health 15:45 - His views on SA’s stance on the war between Russia and Ukraine 21:50 - Conclusions