"It Was Very Carnal" – Hooking Up with Your Clown Teacher

I interview my clown teacher, Phil. We talk clown, steamy sex, and power. A primal one.  Learn more about Ex Appeal here (https://www.exappealpodcast.com/) . If you like the show and want to donate, that would be such a dream. Please do so here (https://www.exappealpodcast.com/donate) . This episode is sponsored by me! I teach public speaking. If you would like help preparing for pitches, panels, presentations, job interviews, all hands meetings, wedding toasts, anything… go to my public speaking coaching website here (https://www.miriamkatz.com/coaching) . Merchandise! Tanks, tees, hoodies, tote bags, mugs, all here (https://ex-appeal.printify.me/products) .  Hosted and produced by Miriam Katz (https://www.miriamkatz.com/) Audio engineering by Laerke Nielsen Theme song melody and vocals by Miriam Katz, instrumentals by Jon Steinmeier Logo designed by Anna Nguyen and Kathryn Davis Photo by Dana Patrick For SEO: exes, relationships, one night stand, love, break ups Please follow me on socials! They’re really fun! Instagram  (  / theexappealpodcast  ) Tik Tok (  / exappeal  ) YouTube (   / @exappeal  ) LinkedIn (  / miriam-katz-b53ba828b  )