Discipleship that Reproduces: From Haiti to India

What does discipleship that truly reproduces look like? In this episode, Leo Sabo sits down with Jeff Ward, COO of Simple, to explore the experiences that shaped Jeff's passion for disciple-making—from a life-changing encounter with God on a mission trip to Haiti to years spent training pastors and church planters in India. Together, they discuss why information alone doesn't produce mature disciples, the importance of modeling a life of faith, and how Jesus' example of living alongside His disciples remains the pattern for the church today. Whether you're leading a stewardship ministry, serving as a pastor, or investing in the lives of others, this conversation will challenge you to think beyond teaching and toward a discipleship that reproduces itself from one generation of believers to the next. Chapters 00:00 – Introduction: Discipleship That Reproduces 01:00 – Jeff Ward's Journey into Ministry and Stewardship 02:30 – A Life-Changing Encounter with God in Haiti 05:20 – Discovering the Need for Reproducing Disciples in India 08:25 – Why Pastors Needed More Than Biblical Knowledge 10:20 – Information vs. Transformation 10:35 – Why Modeling Matters More Than Simply Teaching 13:00 – Stewardship, Relationships, and Living Out the Gospel 14:45 – Making Disciples "As You Go" 17:20 – The Story of Awar and the Power of Multiplication 20:15 – What Reproducing Discipleship Really Looks Like 22:00 – The Gospel Is Offensive Enough 23:05 – Leading with Grace, Humility, and Vulnerability 26:45 – Modeling Dependence on God's Grace 27:55 – Why Stewardship Begins with Christlikeness 28:00 – How to Connect with Jeff Ward and Simple 29:10 – Preview: How Discipleship Naturally Leads to Generosity