All 4 Holy Post Hosts Debate Evangelicalism | Ep. 739

In this episode of The Holy Post Podcast, Phil, Kaitlyn, Esau, and Skye come together for a rare all-four-hosts conversation reacting to two new books on evangelicalism: Bonnie Kristian's "In Defense of Evangelicalism" and Kristin Kobes Du Mez's "Live, Laugh, Love." They debate whether evangelicalism's problems are a few bad apples or something rotten at the root, and Phil pushes back on both framings by arguing there's no single "evangelicalism" to defend or condemn in the first place. Esau brings in the Black church's decades-long critique of white evangelicalism's complicity in racism, and pushes back on conversations that treat white evangelicalism as the default lens for the whole story. Skye argues the question itself is wrong (it's not "is evangelicalism good or bad" but "does this look like Jesus"), and the group closes by turning the conversation on themselves: what should Holy Post Media actually be doing with all of this? Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode - https://holypost.substack.com/p/817a8... 💬 Do you still call yourself an evangelical, or have you redefined, distanced from, or left that label behind? Tell us where you land and why. Watch Skye Jethani's interview with Bonnie Kristian 👉    • How American Culture Became Obsessed With ...   Watch Skye Jethani's interview with Kristin Kobes Du Mez 👉    • How "Biblical Womanhood" Was Invented: His...   Books Mentioned in this Episode: "In Defense of Evangelicalism" by Bonnie Kristian: https://amzn.to/47aShaj "Live, Laugh, Love" by Kristin Kobes Du Mez: https://amzn.to/4xFicC0 "What Has Justice to Do with Righteousness?" by Charlie Dates (this quarter's Holy Post Book Club pick): https://amzn.to/46FB6NV 00:00 Intro 01:17 Theme Song 01:41 Sponsor: Rocket Money - Find and cancel your old subscriptions with Rocket Money at https://www.rocketmoney.com/HOLYPOST 02:40 Sponsor - AG1 - Use the discount code BACK2ROUTINE for 20% off of your first order at: https://www.drinkag1.com/HOLYPOST 04:28 Phil Vischer & Jim Henson 05:23 Why The Panel Episode 07:43 What Both Authors Get Right 09:57 Esau McCaulley on Competing Narratives 12:44 Kaitlyn Schiess on Heart vs Head 13:42 Skye Jethani on Marketplace Evangelicalism 21:48 Racism and Black Church Lens 24:18 Social Gospel Split Debate 26:05 Raising a Child Hypothetical 30:20 Media Shapes the Grove 32:21 Evangelicalism And Racism 33:42 Decentering White Narratives 36:53 Choosing Churches Wisely 39:27 Media Policing And Critique 40:49 Asking Better Questions 42:33 Orthodoxy Versus Labels 45:19 Institutions Worth Saving 46:25 Books And Online Echoes 51:09 Holy Post Media’s Mission 01:00:28 Pop Christianity Temptation 01:03:13 Centering Black Voices 01:05:13 Closing Thoughts And Feedback ⭐ Hey, a quick word about what we've got going this month! It's back-to-school season, and this September you can get 30% off a Holy Post Plus subscription for a full year, at any level. Subscribers will get a free copy of Charlie Dates' new book, access to Skye's latest book, "The World Born in You," plus tons of other exclusive shows and resources. If you've been thinking about joining us, this is the month to do it. Head to holypost.com/plus to sign up, and the discount's good through September 30th! Resources and Links: 🧡 Support us on Patreon:   / holypost   📰 Join the Holy Post Substack: https://holypost.substack.com 🌐 Holy Post Website: https://www.holypost.com 👕 Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. 🔔 Like & subscribe for more conversations on faith, culture, politics, and more! Follow & Connect with Holy Post: Instagram:   / holypostpod   TikTok:   / holypostmedia   X / Twitter: https://x.com/holypostpod Facebook:   / holypostpod   #Evangelicalism #ChurchHistory #ChristianBooks #FaithAndCulture #HolyPostPodcast #HolyPostMedia #HPM