Bartłomiej Telejko: Google’s DMA News, Challenges & Opportunities | Anti-steering, AI, Data, Privacy

Google’s Head of EU Data Governance, Competition, and Cybersecurity. This summer was scorching for everyone. For Google though, the heat was probably even higher than for others.With two DMA non-compliance and two specification decisions now on the table, Google’s compliance strategy is being revised and scrutinised. I sat down with Bartłomiej Telejko Google’s Head of EU Data Governance, Competition, and Cybersecurity, to unpack exactly what these regulatory shifts mean for the tech ecosystem, developers, and the future of search. Key takeaways: 01:00 Things, making the summer particularly hot for Google 02:45 How is the mechanism of specification changing Google’s compliance strategy 04:00 Specification proceedings as a forcing function 06:50 Art 5(4) DMA non-compliance decision (anti-steering) 08:10 What the app developers get from accessing Google Play 13:45 Did the DMA Team send some signals as to how the compliance with Art 5(4) should look like & does the development in the UK play any significant role here 15:55 Explaining the rationale of compliance (& alleged non-compliance) with Art 6(7), self-preferencing 19:15 Evolution of search architecture and accommodating the expectations of business users 21:30 Is there any noticeable systemic difference between the problem with compliance leading to the specification decisions vs. the one leading to the non-compliance decision 25:30 Specification decisions: how much can one deliver within the 6-month framework? 27:15 What has been specified by the Commission for Google’s compliance with Art 6(7) 33:50 What has been specified by the Commission for Google’s compliance with Art 6(11) 39:55 Including into eligible search data access-seekers LLM operators 42:45 What is in common in the structure of the four cases in terms of how they were mobilised by stakeholders 45:10 Reconciling competition with privacy and security 48:20 EDPB guidelines on anonymisation and its relationship to the joint Commission & EDPR draft guidelines on the co-functioning of the DMA/GDPR 51:20 The body of law is growing so quickly. How should we all keep it coherent and understand both the broader and the narrower issues? 53:50 How many things do remain confidential, and how important they are for understanding the gist of the things? 55:30 Recommendations for students Previous episode (№176) Interview with Ben Wreschner, Vodafone. Digital Markets Research Hub is an independent academic initiative aiming at scrutinising the functioning of competition/regulation in digital markets. We host one-to-one interviews with leading policymakers, regulators and practitioners. We also organise online mini-workshops inviting high-profile experts and academics in various fields of digital competition law & policy to discuss the most vibrant issues of the ongoing regulatory reforms in digital markets. While having our clear normative stand on the matters discussed within the hub, we value different views and invite relevant stakeholders and thinkers representing the whole spectrum of reasonable positions on how to regulate competition in digital markets. All our materials are available at YouTube channel, which you are very welcome to subscribe to. This interview is organised & conducted by Prof. Oles Andriychuk (School of Law, University of Exeter).