HLTV Top 20 Needs To Be SHUT DOWN | Hot Take Point Made

Thorin, Mauisnake and Pimp open with a take demanding the HLTV top 20 be shut down for warping Counter-Strike history, and Thorin ends up defending the list he has argued with for a decade. From there: whether m0NESY can ever be crowned number 1, G2's roster future, paiN's prodigy problem, and a GOAT argument built on dupreeh. Topics covered: ⦁ Has the HLTV top 20 genuinely damaged Counter-Strike's historical record? ⦁ Should awards be split by role so IGLs and anchors get their due? ⦁ Did ZywOo beat donk because of his team rather than his play? ⦁ Why the Majors distorted every early top 20 list ⦁ Can m0NESY ever be number 1 with ZywOo and donk in their primes? ⦁ Is staying attached to NiKo capping m0NESY's career? ⦁ Do G2 need another roster move before the end of the year? ⦁ Has snow single-handedly ruined paiN Gaming? ⦁ Is Twistzz the NA GOAT, or just the owner of a better resume than EliGE? PrizePicks: Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/HO... and use code HOTTAKE and get $150 if you win your first $5 lineup! LFN Premium: Exclusive Q&A every episode, bonus content, and community input from across the LFN network. Sign up at https://www.lastfreenation.com Livetrade on CS2 today on Polymarket: https://app.polymarket.us/S8ac/LFN Hot Take Point Made (CS) is a rapid-fire debate show featuring Thorin, Mauisnake, and Pimp. The crew defends bold takes on the hottest stories in competitive Counter-Strike 2, from roster moves to tournament upsets, combining pro-level insight with personality-driven argument. Hot Take Point Made Episode 80 was filmed on October 1, 2026. 🎬 Credits Editing: Andrew Hibbard Art: Atantalas 🎧 Watch/Listen to Hot Take Point Made: Spotify (with video): https://open.spotify.com/show/7oSuwNi... Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Pocket Casts: https://pca.st/fndivkph Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/hot-t... iHeart: https://iheart.com/podcast/105848747/ 💬 Join the conversation: Discord:   / discord   📲 Follow Last Free Nation Counter-Strike: YouTube:    / @lastfreenationcs   Twitter: https://x.com/lastfreenation 🔔 Subscribe to Last Free Nation Counter-Strike for new episodes every week. 📰 Sign up for The LFN Herald, the weekly dispatch from across the Last Free Nation network: https://herald.lastfreenation.com?utm... 🏴‍☠️ Join the Crew: https://www.lastfreenation.com 0:00 HLTV Top 20 should be shut down 25:23 m0NESY will never be the number 1 player in the world 43:46 Will G2 make a roster change? 52:50 snow has been the most destructive player this year 1:06:25 Will BetBoom make a roster change? 1:13:38 If you don't have dupreeh as your CS:GO GOAT, then don't say Twistzz is the NA GOAT #CounterStrike2 #CS2 #HTPM #LFN #Esports