From Excel to Excellence: Transforming Cybersecurity Workforce Management | Black Hat 2025

At Black Hat 2025, Marco Ciappelli from ITSPmagazine explores a critical cybersecurity challenge that goes beyond AI and emerging threats: how we actually manage our cybersecurity teams. Join this compelling conversation with Deidre Diamond, Founder and CEO of CyberSN, and Carraig Stanwyck, CEO and former Fortune 200 CISO, as they reveal why traditional workforce management approaches are failing—and what actually works. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and Black Hat Excitement 00:57 Reconnecting with Daydream 01:05 The Importance of Industry Events 01:57 Cyber Workforce Challenges 02:29 Meeting at RSA and Workforce Risk Management 03:59 The Value of Getting People Right 06:15 The Role of Taxonomy in Talent Matching 08:05 Building Effective Teams 12:55 Proactive Workforce Management 18:26 The Human Element in Cybersecurity *Key Insights:* • Why Excel spreadsheets and happiness surveys aren't enough • How job descriptions become obsolete within weeks • The difference between team happiness and fulfillment • Why cybersecurity professionals are "multi-tools," not single-purpose instruments • How to build quantitative business cases for cybersecurity staffing • The human element in an AI-driven cybersecurity landscape *Featured Guests:* Deidre Diamond - Founder & CEO, CyberSN Carraig Stanwyck - CEO, Former Fortune 200 CISO *Timestamps:* 00:00 Black Hat Reconnections 00:57 The Excel Trap Revealed 02:29 Workforce Risk Management Reality 06:15 Beyond Job Titles: The Multi-Tool Discovery 12:55 From Reactive to Strategic Planning 18:26 The Human Element in Cybersecurity's Future Discover how CyberSN's workforce risk management platform is transforming how cybersecurity leaders understand, develop, and strategically deploy their most valuable asset: their people. Learn more about CyberSN: https://itspm.ag/cybersn-476941 --- *About ITSPmagazine:* ITSPmagazine is an online publication covering topics at the intersection of Cybersecurity, Technology, and Society through podcasts, articles, and event coverage. *Connect with Marco Ciappelli:* 📅 Schedule a 20-minute meeting: https://calendly.com/marcociappelli/i...