Why Knowing Your People Is The Whole Job | People Leadership, Courageous Conversations, Excellence

In this episode of Leadership In Full, Susan Moloisane and Lerato Thahane unpack what it really takes to lead high performers, why great leadership is more about curiosity than being the smartest person in the room, and how lonely the top can feel. They also explore having courageous conversations (and why the "sandwich" method doesn't work), disqualifying yourself from opportunities before you've even tried, and why leadership, like excellence, stays hard every single day. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 It's A Never-Ending Job Of Learning People 01:11 Welcome to Leadership In Full 01:19 Juggling Glass Balls 03:40 Who Is Lerato: Growing Up In Pimville 05:23 "Mmabatho", The People's Person 06:04 Leading M&A And Sitting On The Partnership Board 10:05 What I Thought Leadership Was vs What It Is 13:30 The Hardest Part: Bringing Out People's Best 16:20 The Loneliness Nobody Talks About 18:40 Who Holds The Umbrella For You 21:01 There Is No Unicorn Leader 22:20 High Stakes: Running For The Board While Pregnant 28:47 The Three Strengths I Rely On Most 32:48 How To Have Courageous Conversations 37:44 Why The Sandwich Approach Doesn't Work 40:11 What I'm Still Working On: Saying Less 42:53 It's Never Too Late, And Why Optimism Matters 46:40 The Relentless Pursuit Of Excellence 48:52 Opening The Door For Those Behind You 49:50 Leadership Is Hard, And You Can Do Hard Things Listen on Spotify & Apple Podcasts: Search "Leadership in Full" Listen on Tiktok: @LeadershipInFull Have feedback or a story to share? Email us at leadershipinfull@gmail.com New episodes every Friday. #LeadershipInFull #KnowYourPeople #Leadership #PeopleLeadership #CourageousConversations #WomenInLeadership #ExecutiveLeadership #AfricanLeadership #LeadershipPodcast