Jonah Andersson (v2): I want AI to SLOW DOWN

Jonah Andersson, Principal Cloud Architect, Microsoft MVP for both Azure and Foundry, Microsoft Certified Trainer, international speaker and author of "Learning Microsoft Azure" (O'Reilly). She runs her own company in Sweden, writes books on the side of a full consulting week, speaks at conferences like Microsoft Build, and is currently working on two books at once - the AI-native second edition of her Azure book, and a self-published one about her own story. Her CV is four pages long. She tried to compress it. It didn't work. ;) And here's the part I didn't expect: after all of that, the thing she asks for is for AI to slow down. Intriguing, right? :) This is Jonah's second time on the show - the first was almost two years ago, back when AI was still "a chat prompt you ask questions to". A lot has changed since. In this episode we talk about what it actually costs to stay this productive, why she took a break from her career, and why I took one from this series. We get into the art of saying no one year later, calendars you own versus calendars that own you, whether junior developers are still learning from humans, and where Jonah draws the line on what she'll let AI hear. If you're busier than ever and quietly wondering whether all that speed is taking you anywhere - this one's for you. Tune in! 👾 OUTLINE: 00:00 - Introduction 01:04 - About the series 02:09 - Jingle 02:20 - Welcomes 03:25 - Busier than ever? What a year of AI changed 04:40 - About Jonah 07:58 - Why the series paused - and being too busy to record "The Busy Programmer" 10:22 - Jonah on her own burnout and taking breaks 10:33 - Owning your time as an entrepreneur 11:03 - Five calendars and what a typical week looks like 12:08 - Slow mornings, walks with Lawrence, and where the breaks go 12:50 - Good stress and the other kind 15:17 - Pearls and diamonds - Jonah's metaphor for pressure 16:17 - The art of saying no, one year on 19:03 - The guy who walked out of the meeting (and why I still admire him) 20:45 - The meetings worth showing up for 21:45 - Saying no is basically an "if" condition 23:28 - Attention, distraction and 90 minutes of deep focus 24:52 - FOMO when there's a new model every week 25:33 - Winnow - the MCP server I built to limit my own work in progress 28:01 - Where AI actually helps Jonah: research, writing, debugging 30:46 - Dictation, and where Jonah won't let AI listen 35:20 - Does AI work better in English? 37:06 - Writing the second edition - what AI does and doesn't do 39:32 - "You don't hire junior agents" 41:58 - How are junior developers learning now? 42:39 - Fast to build, hard to fix - who joins the war room? 43:20 - Would you learn programming the same way today? 47:34 - Why in-person events matter more now, not less 48:35 - AI is a thinking partner, but it's not a friend 51:44 - Foundry, Foundry Local, and the token bill nobody plans for 55:00 - The bug AI fixed that nobody can explain 57:03 - Prompting, critical thinking, and still using your brain 58:03 - Less code, deeper systems 1:02:38 - Time is the scarce resource 1:04:04 - The paradox: more capability, more burnout 1:07:34 - The next book - Jonah's own story 1:11:50 - "I want AI to slow down" 1:14:07 - Question from a fellow Busy Programmer 1:16:14 - Summaries, thanks, bye byes! Follow Jonah: LinkedIn:   / jonahandersson   YouTube:    / @jonahandersson   Twitter: https://x.com/cjkodare/ Instagram:   / jonahcandersson   You can also purchase Jonah's book, "Learning Microsoft Azure", here: https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/... 🔔 New here? Wan't to explore further? Subscribe! 🔔    / @thebusyprogrammer   💛 FOLLOW ON SOCIALS: Twitter: https://x.com/zajkowskimarcin/ LinkedIn:   / marcinzajkowski   Facebook:   / zajkowski.marcin   Instagram:   / zajkowskimarcin   Substack: https://thebusyprogrammer.substack.com/